| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:29:03 |
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| What does this policy do? |
| Posted by: sirclesadmin - 03 April 2026 10:31:36 |
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Windows SBS CSE Policy is a default Group Policy Object (GPO) found in Windows Small Business Server (SBS) environments, most notably SBS 2008 and SBS 2011. The acronym CSE in this context stands for Client Side Extensions, though the policy itself is primarily used for the initial setup and management of client computers joined to the SBS domain. Key Functions
Why You Might Be Seeing It
Note: If you have moved away from Small Business Server to a modern environment, this policy is generally considered "legacy" and can usually be unlinked or deleted after ensuring that client management is handled by your new server configuration. |
| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:34:10 |
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| OK What about 'Windows SBS Client Policy'? |
| Posted by: sirclesadmin - 03 April 2026 10:34:46 | |||||||||
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While Windows SBS CSE Policy focuses on the technical "plumbing" (installing the agent and running scripts), the Windows SBS Client Policy is the actual rulebook that dictates the user experience and security settings for workstations on an SBS network. If the "CSE" policy is the delivery truck, the "Client Policy" is the cargo. Core ResponsibilitiesThis GPO is designed to standardize the environment across all office computers. Its primary functions usually include:
Comparison at a Glance
Troubleshooting Common IssuesIf you are seeing errors related to this policy in a modern environment (where the SBS server is gone), you may encounter:
In a post-SBS world, these policies are typically replaced by Default Domain Policy or custom GPOs tailored to the specific needs of a modern Windows Server or Azure AD environment. |
| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:35:16 |
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| OK I want to get rid of the WSUS dependency as it is no longer present |
| Posted by: sirclesadmin - 03 April 2026 10:35:33 |
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To remove the WSUS dependency left over by the Windows SBS Client Policy, you effectively need to tell the client computers to stop looking at a specific local server and start looking back at Microsoft's public servers. Since Group Policy settings often "tattoo" the registry (meaning they stay even after the policy is deleted), the safest approach is a two-step process: disabling the policy and then cleaning the registry. Step 1: Disable the Policy in Group Policy ManagementIf the SBS server is gone but you are on a new domain controller, or if the GPO still exists:
Step 2: Force the Clients to ResetEven after changing the GPO, local machines might still have the old SBS server address stuck in their registry. You can run these commands via an Administrative Command Prompt on the affected machines (or via a startup script): 1. Clear the Registry KeysThese commands delete the specific entries that point to the old WSUS server:
2. Reset the Update ServiceThis stops the service, clears the temporary update cache (which may be bloated with old SBS data), and restarts it:
3. Force a Check-InFinally, tell Windows to check directly with Microsoft:
How to VerifyAfter performing these steps, go to Settings > Windows Update > Advanced Options.
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| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:44:05 |
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| [attach]127[/attach] It's not configured in there.. |
| Posted by: sirclesadmin - 03 April 2026 10:45:33 |
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Based on the screenshot, it looks like you are checking the Computer Configuration section, but everything is marked as "Not configured." This tells us one of two things: either you're looking at the wrong Group Policy Object (GPO), or the settings are actually hidden in the User Configuration section (which is less common for WSUS but possible in SBS environments). However, if you are certain this is the correct GPO and it shows "Not configured," the WSUS dependency is likely coming from a different policy or is "tattooed" into the registry. Here is how to track it down: 1. Find the "Secret" SourceInstead of hunting through every GPO, let's see exactly which policy is winning. On one of the affected client computers:
2. Check "All Settings"In your screenshot, look at the very bottom of the left-hand folder tree (under the highlighted "Windows Update" folder). There is a folder called "All Settings."
3. The "Legacy" SBS TrapSmall Business Server often used a specific WMI Filter. If you are looking at the "Default Domain Policy" and it's not there, check for a GPO specifically named:
These were the specific names SBS used for WSUS management, separate from the "Client Policy." 4. Forced Cleanup (If the GPO is missing)If you can't find the GPO but the machines are still stuck, it means the settings are "orphaned" in the registry. You can kill the dependency immediately by running this on the client machine:
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| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:46:01 |
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| Well you can see top left which policy I'm looking at |
| Posted by: sirclesadmin - 03 April 2026 10:46:37 |
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Ah, eagle eyes-you're right. I see it now in the title bar: you are specifically editing the Windows SBS Client Policy. If that policy shows "Not configured" for every setting in that list, then that specific GPO is currently a "ghost"-it exists, but it isn't actually doing anything regarding Windows Updates. This means the WSUS dependency is coming from somewhere else. Here is how to nail it down: 1. The "True" SBS Update PoliciesIn a standard SBS setup, the Windows SBS Client Policy usually handled firewall and remote desktop, while two other policies handled the actual WSUS/Update settings. Look in your Group Policy Management list for:
Check those two. One of them is almost certainly where the "Specify intranet Microsoft update service location" setting is hiding. 2. The "Winning" Policy (The Shortcut)Since we know the setting is active on your machines but "Not configured" in the GPO you're looking at, let's use the Settings Results tab to find the culprit:
3. Check for Local PoliciesIf the SBS server was decommissioned or the domain is messy, someone might have set a Local Group Policy on the machine images.
4. Direct Registry Kill (The "I'm Done With This" Method)If you just want the dependency gone and don't want to hunt through old SBS policies, you can override it. Create a brand new GPO, call it "Kill WSUS," and set Specify intranet Microsoft update service location to Disabled. Because "Disabled" explicitly tells Windows "Don't use a local server," it will override any "Enabled" settings from the old SBS policies as long as your new GPO has a higher precedence (is higher in the list). Which policies do you see listed in your GPMC alongside that SBS Client Policy? |
| Posted by: DogMan - 03 April 2026 10:54:25 |
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| How can I see which policies are affecting the current machine/user? |