Posted by: drdread - 26 June 2025 08:49:14 |
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Now I am getting a System_Service_Exception without changing anything - what could be causing this ongoing change in error? |
Posted by: sirclesadmin - 26 June 2025 08:51:36 |
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A shifting sequence of BSODs during Windows 11 installation - going from What a Changing BSOD Sequence Usually MeansThink of BSODs as Windows screaming in different dialects. When the dialect changes each time, it's not that the cause is different - it's that Windows is failing unpredictably during startup, often from incomplete driver initialization, RAM instability, or storage/controller confusion. Probable Causes Ranked by Likelihood
Let's Diagnose and Resolve1. Test the RAM ImmediatelyRun Memtest86+ from a bootable USB for at least 1 full pass (ideally overnight).
2. Use a Fresh USB Installer (Different Stick, Port, Tool)Even if it worked before:
3. Reset BIOS to Defaults, Then Set Minimum Needed
4. Switch SATA Mode: Try AHCI or IDE
5. Physically Clean the Machine
6. Try Installing Windows 10 InsteadInstall Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (final stable version), then do an in-place upgrade to Windows 11 using the TPM-bypassed installer. Still Failing After That?If after RAM test, BIOS reset, fresh USB, and disk mode switch it still BSODs randomly:
Would you like me to:
Let me know and we'll tame this old lion of a PC yet. |
Posted by: drdread - 26 June 2025 08:52:43 |
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OK because I checked RAM and storage with the internal diagnostic before I began and wiped the disk with certified disk-cleaning software. |
Posted by: sirclesadmin - 26 June 2025 08:53:32 | ||||||||||||
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That's helpful - and good on you for being thorough early. Since you've already:
Then this is almost certainly driver or media-related, and not hardware per se. Let's cut to the most likely culprits for this seemingly shape-shifting installer instability: Most Probable Remaining Causes1. The USB Installer Itself (Corrupt, Misaligned, or Bad Format)Even if it boots - if it was made with:
...it may trip on different files each time. 2. BIOS Mode vs Installer Mode Conflict (UEFI vs Legacy BIOS)The HP Pro 3500 defaults to Legacy BIOS, but if the installer is UEFI-based (GPT partitioned), it can cause crash loops or erratic install behavior. 3. Storage Driver IncompatibilityNewer Windows 11 ISOs try to use NVMe/AHCI drivers by default. This box may still have IDE mode or an older controller that doesn't like the newer default drivers. What You Should Do Now (Minimalist Repair Strategy)Step 1: Build a Clean Windows 11 Installer (Legacy-Compatible)Use Rufus with these exact settings:
Then:
Step 2: Enter BIOS and Use These Settings
Save and exit. Step 3: Let It Install With Only These Things Plugged In:
Unplug:
Optional: Install Windows 10 First Then UpgradeIf it still fails, install Windows 10 Pro 22H2 (last good build for older hardware). Once stable:
If You Want to Go Deep: Try DISM InstallWe can apply Windows manually without the standard GUI setup, which avoids almost all driver/USB/TPM issues:
Let me know if you'd like that route or want a pre-built ISO that just works with Legacy BIOS and no TPM. This HP can absolutely run Win11 - it just needs to be spoken to in the old language. |