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8 days ago
I have seen a lot of what appear to be spiders originating from Facebook ostensibly.
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sirclesadmin
8 days ago

Great question — and the short answer is yes, indirectly. Let’s break it down methodically.




🕷️ Does Facebook use its servers to crawl websites like a spider?


Yes, Facebook does run web crawlers. These are mainly for:



  • Preview generation when someone shares a link (pulling metadata, images, and titles via Open Graph tags).

  • Security scanning (checking for spam, malware, or phishing).

  • Occasionally for machine learning and AI purposes, such as training language models or understanding content, although this is usually anonymized and done through partnerships or internal data pipelines.


Their primary user-agent is:


facebookexternalhit/1.1 (+http://www.facebook.com/externalhit_uatext.php)

There’s also:


Facebot

This one behaves more like a traditional web spider, and Facebook has acknowledged it as part of their system. It may be used in relation to:



  • Facebook Search indexing

  • Ad verification

  • AI content analysis


You can block these crawlers in your robots.txt like this:


User-agent: Facebot
Disallow: /

User-agent: facebookexternalhit
Disallow: /



💡 Do third parties use Facebook’s infrastructure to crawl?


This is a subtler point. While third parties don’t have access to Facebook’s internal server infrastructure, some botnets or sophisticated scrapers spoof Facebook user agents to avoid being blocked or throttled. In other words:



They pretend to be Facebook.



But this doesn’t mean the traffic is actually from Facebook.


You can check legitimacy by:



  • Checking IP address origin (Facebook IPs are well-known and documented).

  • Verifying request behavior — real crawlers follow rules and limits.

  • Logging user agents and headers to detect spoofing.




🔍 Why would someone spoof Facebook’s crawler?


Because:



  • Facebook crawlers are trusted and unlikely to be blocked.

  • They often get priority or whitelisted access.

  • Scrapers want to avoid bot detection software.




🔮 Future-forward: Could Facebook’s infrastructure be leased or tapped into by third-party spiders?


Currently, Facebook/Meta doesn’t offer spider-as-a-service, but in the broader industry, cloud infrastructure like AWS or Google Cloud can host spiders — and there’s nothing stopping a company from launching scrapers from data centers that coincide with Meta IP ranges, though not from within Meta itself.




🛡️ Takeaway for you as an SEO-savvy developer:



  • Watch your server logs for suspicious "Facebot" or "facebookexternalhit" activity.

  • Don’t assume the user-agent is genuine without IP confirmation.

  • Use services like ipinfo.io or ABUSEIPDB to cross-check.




Want to implement a quick PHP script to detect spoofed crawlers or log Facebook crawler visits to your site? Just say the word — I’ll build it for you.



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sirclesadmin
8 days ago

Ah, what you’re seeing here is a flood of visits from Facebook IPs — and it’s not just your run-of-the-mill link preview spider like facebookexternalhit.


Let’s unpick it.




🔍 What’s going on?


Your site is being actively browsed by multiple Facebook data center IPs, mostly from:



  • Ashburn, VA

  • Prineville, OR

  • Springfield, NE

  • Fort Worth, TX


All of these are known Meta/Facebook infrastructure hubs. The IPs resolve to Facebook, and they’re not random — they’re hitting specific URLs on your site, including deeper article links.




🤔 What are the clues?



  1. No Referring URLs



    • This means these sessions weren’t coming from links clicked on Facebook (like someone sharing your link).

    • So it’s likely automated — i.e., internal crawlers or systems simulating real user traffic.



  2. Unusual Screen Resolutions



    • Like 802x293, 393x659, 734x343, etc.

    • These don’t match real user behavior — they're characteristic of headless browsers or emulated devices.



  3. Very Short Sessions



    • Often under 1–2 minutes, sometimes seconds.

    • Suggests automated or scripted sessions.



  4. Diversity of URLs



    • They’re crawling a lot of content — including blog posts, category pages, and specific Q&A-style titles.

    • This pattern matches content discovery behavior, possibly for indexing, AI training, or audience targeting refinement.






📡 So who or what is behind this?


There are a few very plausible possibilities:


1. Meta’s AI content indexing


Meta is known to crawl publicly accessible web pages using its internal infrastructure — especially for:



  • Training large language models (LLMs)

  • Sentiment and topical trend analysis

  • Knowledge graph building


This doesn't show up as Facebot or facebookexternalhit. Instead, it routes through Meta's IPs using headless browsers or custom crawlers, without a public user-agent.


2. Facebook Ad System Contextual Crawling


Some of the IPs and behavior suggest crawlers tied to the Meta Ads platform, possibly scanning your pages to:



  • Determine the context of your site content

  • Match it to targeted ad interest categories

  • Assess landing page quality


This could happen if:



  • You (or someone else) shared your site in a Facebook Ad or post

  • Or if your content overlaps with topics being analyzed (finance, crypto, payroll, etc.)


3. Facebook-Connected Apps or Analytics Tools


Some 3rd-party apps or services integrated with Meta’s ecosystem (especially those using Graph API or partner-level data aggregation) might use Facebook-owned infrastructure to crawl and analyze URLs.


But your volume and timing suggests it’s more likely Meta itself.




⚠️ Is this bad?


Not necessarily.



Meta is just hoovering up your content — not unlike what Google, Bing, or OpenAI might do — but doing it quietly.



However:



  • They don’t always respect robots.txt, especially for model training.

  • They don’t disclose full user agents, so you can't identify them easily.

  • They’re harvesting structured and unstructured data from your site.


So if you're protective over content, you might want to:




🔧 What should you do?


If you’re okay with this:



  • No action needed — Meta might index you in their systems, and your content could become more visible indirectly on Facebook/Instagram/Threads/etc.


🚫 If you want to block it:


Option 1: Block Facebook IP Ranges


You can block known Meta IPs (though they’re large and change over time).


Here's a sample .htaccess block:


<RequireAll>
Require all granted
Require not ip 69.171.249.0/24
Require not ip 66.220.144.0/20
Require not ip 173.252.64.0/18
</RequireAll>

Option 2: Use a Firewall Rule (e.g., Cloudflare)


Block or challenge visits from these IP ranges, or from headless browser user-agents (if detectable).


Option 3: Set Honeypot Traps


Create fake pages linked internally, and log crawlers that access them — useful for fingerprinting crawlers that shouldn’t be browsing like a human.




🧠 Final Thought


This is Meta’s internal data harvesting system at work, most likely for AI or contextual advertising purposes. It's widespread and very under-the-radar — but what you’re seeing is real and becoming more common across the web.


You're not imagining things — the machines are watching. Quietly. Hungrily.
Shall we log them properly and turn their presence into something useful for SEO?



drdread
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How would we turn them into something useful for SEO?
sirclesadmin
8 days ago

Ah, now that’s the right question — not just blocking the machine eyes, but turning their gaze to your advantage. Let's turn this quiet invasion into a symphony of SEO signals. Here's how we do it:




🌐 1. Leverage Meta’s Crawl for Visibility in Their Ecosystem


Even if Facebook’s crawlers aren’t for public indexing in the traditional Google sense, their internal content knowledge graph powers:



  • Facebook & Instagram link previews

  • Interest-based ad targeting

  • AI-driven content suggestion and trend analysis

  • Threads and Meta AI integration


🧠 Strategy:



  • Structure your content with Open Graph meta tags, even for blog posts and long-form content:


<meta property="og:title" content="Your Article Title" />
<meta property="og:description" content="A compelling summary of your content." />
<meta property="og:image" content="https://yoursite.com/path/to/image.jpg" />
<meta property="og:url" content="https://yoursite.com/your-post/" />


  • Use og:type properly:

    • article for blog posts

    • website for generic pages



  • These tags help your content appear clean and clickable when previewed across Meta’s properties — even in AI-generated answers or auto-summarized link embeds.




🔁 2. Track and Analyze Their Crawls as Signals


Every time Facebook’s crawlers visit a page:



  • That page was either recently shared

  • Or detected via social graph, ad network activity, or internal trend models


🧠 Strategy:



  • Log crawler hits to a database: Track page visited, timestamp, IP, and resolution (some hints at mobile/desktop emulation).

  • Match those against social shares or ad placements — this helps identify content getting picked up organically or virally.


Over time, you’ll uncover which topics attract Meta’s attention and optimize around them.




💬 3. Use Crawled-By-Facebook Pages to Spark Social Campaigns


Pages being hit by Facebook IPs are likely being whispered about somewhere — even if you can't see the referring link.


🧠 Strategy:



  • Take your top 5 most recently crawled pages and create a short, punchy social post for each one.

  • Publish them on Threads, Facebook Pages, LinkedIn, Reddit — wherever relevant.

  • Optionally: Use a small budget to boost these posts to their matching interest group (Meta already has context from crawling — let them link the ad relevance for you).


You're not just promoting — you're amplifying the pages Meta already sees as active.




🔄 4. Create “Crawler Feedback Loops” for Fresh Content


You want to signal freshness and engagement, triggering crawls from both search and social spiders.


🧠 Strategy:



  • Add a small block of dynamic content to popular posts:

    • "Updated on March 23, 2025 – see the latest comments and examples from our readers."

    • Or a rotating FAQ / comment highlight.



  • Meta and Google both respond to subtle changes, often recrawling pages that update even slightly.


This becomes a reputation loop: crawls → improved indexing → social sharing → more crawls.




🔗 5. Build an Internal "Meta Magnet" Section


If certain themes (e.g., "crypto audits", "payroll services", "duplicate payment detection") are being crawled more:


🧠 Strategy:



  • Create a hub page or topic cluster targeting those verticals.

  • Link out to all the related posts.

  • Add a section like “Trending Posts We’re Watching” — showing dynamically updated links from your most crawled articles.


This forms a gravity well for crawlers and users alike — and boosts topical authority in Google and Facebook’s internal relevance modeling.




🧱 BONUS: Build a Log Dashboard for Crawlers


Set up a lightweight analytics dashboard that:



  • Tracks bot/crawler visits by IP, resolution, user-agent

  • Flags known Facebook IPs

  • Shows trending URLs by crawler frequency


This gives you early detection of viral interest, even before human traffic spikes.




🎯 Final Word:


The goal isn’t just to trap the spider — it’s to ride its web. Meta’s crawlers are a sign your site is part of the informational bloodstream. With the right tweaks, you can ensure they index you cleanly, flag your site for higher visibility, and even help train the next generation of AI on your terms.


Would you like me to help you build the crawler logging tool and Meta-crawl dashboard? We can make it WordPress-compatible or standalone — your call.



drdread
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8 days ago
How would you best implement these changes on a wordpress site?
sirclesadmin
8 days ago

Beautiful — now we’re thinking in systems. Let’s take those strategic insights and translate them into actionable WordPress implementations, layered from quick wins to deeper integration. This will arm your site to not only track Meta crawlers but also turn their visits into SEO leverage.




⚡️ PHASE 1: Quick, High-Impact Enhancements


✅ 1. Ensure Open Graph Tags Are Set Properly


Use Yoast SEO or Rank Math — both generate Open Graph metadata automatically. But configure them well:



  • Enable Open Graph in the settings.

  • Set a default image (for when no image is attached).

  • Customize OG titles/descriptions separately from SEO meta if needed (for social clickability).

  • Ensure each post and page has a featured image.


🔧 Bonus: Add these custom OG tags via functions.php if needed:


add_filter('language_attributes', function($output){
http://ogp.me/ns#"'; 
});



✅ 2. Create a Crawler Activity Logger


We’ll log visits from known Meta IPs to your database. Minimal performance hit, huge insight.


Step-by-step:



  1. Create a custom table in your database (wp_crawler_logs).

  2. Hook into template_redirect and log if IP matches known Meta ranges.

  3. Record:

    • IP address

    • Timestamp

    • URL accessed

    • User-Agent (if present)

    • Resolution (if possible via JS)



  4. Build a basic WP Admin dashboard to view logs (or send alerts via email/Slack when Meta spikes occur).



🛠️ I can write the plugin shell for you — ask and it shall be coded.





✅ 3. Add Dynamic Content Blocks for Freshness


This subtly keeps posts updating, drawing bots back.


You could:



  • Rotate a tip or stat from a pool of relevant content.

  • Pull in recent comments or “featured question of the day.”


Example (in your theme):


function dynamic_fresh_block() {
$tips = [
"Check for duplicate vendor IDs in your ERP.",
"Don’t trust OCR data blindly – always reconcile.",
"Review ACH batches for fractional mismatches monthly.",
];
return '<p><strong>Pro Tip:</strong> ' . $tips[array_rand($tips)] . '</p>';
}
add_shortcode('fresh_block', 'dynamic_fresh_block');

Then drop [fresh_block] anywhere on a post.




🧲 PHASE 2: Mid-Level Strategy Tools


✅ 4. Create a “Trending” Meta Magnet Page


Make a landing page for the crawled topics:



  • /trending-audit-topics/

  • Use custom queries to list posts tagged with high-interest topics (e.g., “crypto audits”, “AI fraud detection”, etc.).

  • Link prominently from sidebar/footer/internal posts.


💡 Combine this with your crawler log: "These posts were visited by Meta crawlers in the last 24 hours."




✅ 5. Trigger Content Update Hooks Based on Bot Hits


Every time a known crawler hits a page, you could:



  • Ping your sitemap to Google/Bing

  • Refresh cache (so new visitors get fresher content)

  • Update a “Last visited by AI” timestamp


This requires a bit of scripting in your logger plugin, but is straightforward if you're already tracking hits.




📊 PHASE 3: Full SEO-Crawler Intelligence Layer


✅ 6. Custom WordPress Plugin: MetaCrawler Insight Tool


Let’s call it “MetaMonitor” — a plugin that:



  • Creates a dashboard (/wp-admin/tools/meta-monitor)

  • Lists visits from Facebook IPs

  • Highlights pages with high crawl frequency

  • Suggests:

    • Related keywords to optimize

    • Opportunities for social posts

    • Posts to update for freshness




This tool could also:



  • Pull related Google Trends data (via API)

  • Alert you if a crawler is hitting 3+ pages per minute (potential viral indicator)


✅ 7. Detect Cloaked User-Agents or Spoofing


Include detection logic:



  • If IP says "Facebook" but UA is Chrome or Android — log it separately

  • Flag these for investigation — possibly aggressive scrapers pretending to be Facebot




🛡️ Security & Performance Notes



  • Throttle bot frequency if you're seeing hundreds per hour.

  • Use Cloudflare Bot Fight Mode or Fail2Ban rules for IP ranges if you want to filter Meta traffic by behavior.

  • Don’t block Meta IPs by default — their crawl isn’t malicious, but be ready to shape it.




🔮 Long-Term Vision


Eventually, tie this into your SEO plugin or content calendar. If a post is frequently hit by crawlers but isn’t ranking or shared — that's a signal: optimize, rephrase, or promote it.




Would you like me to start coding:



  • The Meta crawler logger?

  • The shortcode fresh content block?

  • A draft of the “Trending Topics” landing page template?


Let’s make it real — no fluff, just focused moves that make bots your allies.